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speed controlled on/off signal

Postby mohmedhat » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:09 pm

do any one know if their is a wire or an ecu pin that produce a +ve or gnd signal when the vehicle reaches a specific speed? 40km/h 60km/h 80km/h or 100km/h????

i hava a lanos 1.6

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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby Daniel » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:09 pm

Seems to be something about this at chime bell level. However I don't know if this is a option or standard for specific counties. There is a unconnected input (pin 3 labeled "S") on my chime bell.

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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby benzino » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:13 am

Daniel wrote:
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this!! :lol:
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby mohmedhat » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:55 pm

do you think that the chime bell module determine the 120km/h speed from speedometer and then announce alarm? if so i will not be able to take a signal from it as it as you see alarm for many other things!!

if the ecu send the signal to the chime bell module at that speed on pin S then i can use this pin to drive what i need but seems the 1st scenario is the right one and then no use!!
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby Daniel » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:02 pm

I really don't know how this works as it is not wired on my car. And there are probably more than one layout.

If I had to trigger something at a specific vehicle speed I would use a frequency-to-voltage converter like the LM331 feeded from speed sensor followed by a comparator like the LM311. This stuff has to be calibrated. That's the "old school".

Actually with a µcontroller and some lines of software you can certainly make the same function with less components. But this is beyond my knowledge.
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby mohmedhat » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:12 pm

can you help me and post the circuit of that old school, i like it as also i'm an old electronics engineer, but i'm no longer working as an engineer!!
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby Daniel » Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:50 am

This is a mix from IC's datasheets. The circuit is not tested but should work.
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Try it on a test board first.
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You still have to calculte the resistor/capacitor values in order to reach your goal. Refer to included web links for more technical informations.

BTW I found in Leganza manual that the "chime module speed alarm" is triggered from dashboard speedo. So IMHO it's unlikely fitted on Lanos.
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Have fun.

P.S. What do you plan to trigger at specific speeds? Back to the future? :)
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby mohmedhat » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:27 am

thank you very much for your valuable info

i'm planning to trigger door locks at 40km/h like oem and turn off my EHPS pump over 100km/h or 120km/h
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby Daniel » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:12 pm

mohmedhat wrote:thank you very much for your valuable info

i'm planning to trigger door locks at 40km/h like oem and turn off my EHPS pump over 100km/h or 120km/h


Than you can fit a second LM311 on the same LM331 output.
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Re: speed controlled on/off signal

Postby mohmedhat » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:12 am

i'll try it, thank you very much for your kind support
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